"Because the entity messed with her power before they killed it. Couldn't be infallible against entities or Endbringers. You can copy the version from before that."
"I also notice that her power was supposed to be 'I win' but did not turn out to be 'I make my attempt to win in a remotely ethically palatable way' and I am not sure to what extent she was able to tweak that and simply didn't bother."
"I know better than to ask what's the worst that could happen, but it'd have to be pretty bad to not be worth it. We could use some infallibility right now. Or you could always just make the black holes from here."
"Okay. So I can Butcher myself a Contessa, see if she thinks I need any extras - do you happen to Thinker yourself the information of whether I can do this multiple times or if I ought to load up a single Butcher with a lot of stuff, Tattletale? - use that to see if Kithabel can be got out and even if she can't use it to aim black holes."
"Separate Butchers. Powers'll be stronger that way. So would the side effects, but we're already counting on those not applying.
You are still going to need to be a parahuman first. I don't want the Butcher jumping to me; it might not be safe for us mere mortals. Cauldron's vials might still work, or maybe you could make yourself a passenger directly so it's not connected to one of the entities."
"No one ever has multiple, so there's no telling what would happen if you tried. The other thing is that copying someone's passenger wouldn't be the same as copying their power. A lot depends on the individual and the trigger event. Wait, you can't conjure yourself a trigger event at all. Guess it'll have to be a vial."
"Then we have a problem. Theoretically you could copy the extra brain bits someone had post-trigger, not just the connection, and just see what it does when it's attached to your head instead of theirs. But past a certain point it'd be less risky to use two six five on Labyrinth."
Then the thing to look at is the catalog Cauldron showed their customers. Those ones have already been tested, and are conveniently ranked by interestingness and power of the result as well as by reliability of the vial.
A sample they called Balance. The name might be familiar from elsewhere in Cauldron's more secret notes, as they took to diluting other formulas with this to make mutations less likely. When taken by itself, the Balance formula gave remarkably unremarkable powers: marginal improvement at picking up skills, or an appearance that gradually shifts to fit the subject's current idea of really good looking. The theme seems to be that it makes the recipient a better example of what they would want to be along some axis. It's a drinker-friendly vial, if low power by cape standards.
"Well, that's promising, in a way. Right. I will make a jailbroken Contessa and see if the shard does anything horrifying and if it doesn't, Butcher next."
"Better make sure she's restrained and gagged at first. If the thing you make gets piloted by a violence-prone passenger, I'd rather not have to fight it."
"Before you try anything with the Butcher, can you make a copy of two six five and a doomsday device? Just in case a mindless Butcher isn't safe, and your indestructibility doesn't protect you, and this counts as you being the one doing the killing. If you don't know any doomsday devices I can suggest some tinker tech, but no guarantees we'd know how to use that."
"I do not know any doomsday devices, because I have never anticipated the need to wreck a planet I couldn't be within a reasonable astronomical distance of. You want the two six five jailbroken?"
No idea if we have to wreck the whole planet or not, but two copies of String Theory's Firmament Driver ought to do it. Some supervillain threatened to use one of these to knock the moon out of orbit; it's the best thing for firepower on an unknown scale."
Cam makes a jailbroken (bound, gagged) two six five. "I'm not sure I wish to make such a thing on this Earth. Maybe we can't get where we ultimately need to be but can we at least get somewhere nobody is living on?"
"Other side of this. It's still an Earth, though, and is at the obvious point corresponding to here." The large rectangular hole still leads to a rain forest with different weather.
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Date: 2016-03-28 03:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-03-28 03:11 am (UTC)"I know better than to ask what's the worst that could happen, but it'd have to be pretty bad to not be worth it. We could use some infallibility right now. Or you could always just make the black holes from here."
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Date: 2016-03-28 04:08 am (UTC)You are still going to need to be a parahuman first. I don't want the Butcher jumping to me; it might not be safe for us mere mortals. Cauldron's vials might still work, or maybe you could make yourself a passenger directly so it's not connected to one of the entities."
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Date: 2016-03-28 04:11 am (UTC)"Is there any obvious reason I can't just make myself several passengers and bypass the Butcher thing entirely?"
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Date: 2016-03-28 04:34 am (UTC)Cam looks for the vials on offer; he needs safety, not power. Power will come separately.
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Date: 2016-03-28 04:57 am (UTC)"Is having a trippy vision normal."
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Date: 2016-03-28 05:11 am (UTC)Very tied up very gagged Contessa basement dweller with a new passenger with none of that pesky DRM.
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Date: 2016-03-28 05:20 am (UTC)"Before you try anything with the Butcher, can you make a copy of two six five and a doomsday device? Just in case a mindless Butcher isn't safe, and your indestructibility doesn't protect you, and this counts as you being the one doing the killing.
If you don't know any doomsday devices I can suggest some tinker tech, but no guarantees we'd know how to use that."
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Date: 2016-03-28 05:35 am (UTC)No idea if we have to wreck the whole planet or not, but two copies of String Theory's Firmament Driver ought to do it. Some supervillain threatened to use one of these to knock the moon out of orbit; it's the best thing for firepower on an unknown scale."
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